I would like to know what you ladies think of the movie The Golden Compass that is coming out December7, starring Nicole Kidman. Are you sure that it is something that you would want your child to see?
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I have received emails and heard on the radio that it is NOT a good movie for ANYONE to see. It is supposedly written by an atheist and it is based on books about kids killing God so they can do whatever they want. I have not done the research on this yet that was suggested (go to snopes.com) but I will not be watching this movie. I am very ed at the actors who are in this movie. On the radio they said that the author of the books is hoping that after the kids watch this movie they will want their parents to buy them the books for Christmas. Very scarey!
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Shame on you!!! This is America!! You can't be serious about wanting to ban movies (and books next I suppose!) Do different s scare you that much???
To the rest of you,
I read the series years ago, and while it is definitely not for children - too much college level philosophy for most of them to get thanks to the dumbing down of American education - they were entertaining. I can see where the author, being British, might think that they were able to be read by middle schoolers if they were as well versed in philosophy as he was at that age. However, most of the s presented in these books are well beyond the grasp of most children I know. Yes, the s are controversial, in the same way that the LOTR, the Oz books, Harry Potter, and Narnia were in their day and in some places still are. While I may go see the movie, my 13 yo has little interest in seeing it, but I hope that one day she will read the books as it will be yet another avenue that will open a discussion of religious philosophy for us.
I got the same email, I read what snopes.com had to say - all the way through. Yes, the author did say some of those things, but if you read the whole bit about it on snopes, you will see that many of the comments are taken out of context.
DeeDee,
Ideas do not scare me, people who want to ban s scare me. If you do not agree with the author, or do not wish to support him, do not buy the books or any tickets to his movies, but do not infringe on others rights to be exposed to or support the author's s. Also, it is only a movie - entertainment - just like the Left Behind movies, or the Die Hard series, or The Wizard of Oz - or any TV show you care to mention.
Well pardon me for voicing my opinion. I thought this was a free country and we would be able to say our piece without getting shot down for it.
I still think movies of this nature should be banned. I have heard more about it and it stinks. If you think this is okay, what about pornographic movies, would you want your child to read books or see movies about this? Child pornography maybe? If not, then why not? Its only "entertaninment" as you called it.
I am not here to , debate or anything else with you but do not appreciate being told not to infringe on anyone's rights. I am not doing that, I am simply stating my opinion.
As for different s scaring me this much, I guess I might have to say yes to this. They do. For the simple reason there is too many "s" as you call them in this world today and that is why so many people are messed up in their heads.
Sorry but this is MY opinion and nobody is going to make me change it.
Child/Animal Pornography is exploitation and totally different and you should know that. Besides, I don't want the government telling me what I can and can not view/read in my own home.
I agree that this is not a Children's movie and think that it is wrong to have it marketed as such. Much of the philosophy from the books will go right over the children who view the movie's heads. Just like in the books. The concepts d in the books were things I learned in college in the 1970s.
It just gets my hackles up whenever people start talking about banning books and movies. They tried with Jesus Christ Superstar, a lot of Mark Twain's works, the Harry Potter series, even Narnia. And why stop at books and films when there is also music that some felt inppropriate for young people - in the 1950s people tried to ban Elvis and in the 1960s it was The Beatles, etc. In the 1980s Tipper Gore got labels added to what she considered to be offensive albums (Twisted Sister), so that parents - who were too busy to parent properly - would at least have a clue what their children were listening to without actually having to get involved with their own child.
The message behind The Golden Compass is more about authority (as represented by The Church - which is protrayed as overly controlling) being questioned, and IF abusive, destroyed, then about destoying God - who is used as the head of The Church. Can anyone destroy an (God) that is so deeply entrenched in almost every culture? China has had 100+ years and hasn't been able to do it.
What bothers me most is that without even reading the books, just reading what others (who may also have never read the books) have written about it, you are advocating a ban on it. It is this sort of thing that leads to the government thinking that they can tell its citizens what to think and believe and what not to. And then, we get book burnings. It is bad enough that I now have to get most of my real news from the internet because all of the US News sources seem to be in lock step about what they report. BBC America and France's 24/7 at least don't cover what happens to Lohan, Hilton, and other stars as if it really matters.
As to the government controlling the news and what we see/think/hear it has been tried in the past (McCarthyism) here in the US and the so called Patriot Act passed after 9-11 opened the door for it to happen again.
Censorship is not the answer - no matter what the question. Effective parenting is always best for our children. But, that being said, I don't have any more right to tell you how to parent your children, than you have the right to tell me how to parent mine.
Well, I guess I'll in with my two cents again. I have not read the books nor do I wish to. Nor will I watch the movie. I have heard many different reports on the news and different religious speakers give their thoughts on the situation (and no they were not always of my religion) and I am very afraid of children seeing the movie (which is said to be harmless) and then wanting to get the books and then learn about atheism. I'm not here to but if we do not start keeping Christ and God in this country we are going to be alot worse than some of the third world countrys because God is going to let us suffer for our stupidity. I'm but the more accepting we are the more the kids are exposed to and the more confused they become. Christianity teaches love and good moral values. I think everyone has a right to their opinion and a right to protest something they do not believe in. Yes they can run the movie but we as repsonsible parents should protect our children from this kind of hogwash and blasphemy. And now you have my 2 cents worth.
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You know something Ladyre? No matter what I post here, you are going to come back with the almighty right answer to it all so I am not saying anymore other than to ask you one question;
You have the right of it!!! If you don't want to support something, it is your right not to support it. However, as I stated censorship is not the answer - effective parenting is!!! I have also stated - repeatedly!!! - that I do not feel that the books (or movies) should be marketed as "for children" (see something else that we agree on) because of all of the contradictory religious philosphy that is included. I agree that any child (or adult) not firmly grounded in their faith would probably come away very confused. However, "The Golden Compass" is the first book in a trilogy and is not the whole story anymore than "The Fellowship of the Ring" is the entire story that is told in "The Lord of the Rings". Yes, I have actually read the books (way before all of the hoopla about what they supposedly mean), and though more that a bit convoluted in a lot of ways, the experience did cause me to think - a lot. Pullman's work is more about what do you do when the controlling authority becomes corrupt (think Hitler, any # of Popes, the Bolsheviks, etc) and if you destroy it, with what do you replace it? - than it is about converting others to atheism. How exactly would you convert someone to a non-religion?
As a licensed minister in the Commonwealth of Virginia I am defintely NOT an atheist. I am merely open-minded, and my faith is strong enough that outside s do not threaten it.
Well, I am certainly glad for your sake that you are not an atheist ladyre. I would like to report something I heard the other day. A lady who IS an atheist was on the news supporting this movie because she believes that the books point people towards atheism and that is just way too scarey. If I had my way this movie and alot of others would never make it to the screen. Because unfortunatley we have become too accepting in this country and honestly I think it is because we are influenced by movies and t.v. shows.
I don't know the answers but it would be nice if there was a way to get this country back on a good moral track.
I think what DeeDee meant about banning the movie is to stop all of this immoral influence on our children. And I agree. I wish they would be stopped before they are ever made.
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Thanks Polly. Yes that is partly what I meant and another reason I think it should be banned is, this world is gone to hell as far as I am concerned. There is too much sex and everything else on television, in books , movies etc. No wonder there are so many rapes, murders, and child molestations going on today. Years ago it wasn't like this. Sure there were things going on but not like today. People's minds are getting warped with all these movies and things. I am no prude either.
So I feel I have the right to voice my opinion and so to anyone who doesn't like it be they a minister or not. I say what I feel and will continue to do so. This world is in very sad shape and it needs to be changed back to the way it was.
By the way Ladyre, my faith is probaby as strong or stronger than yours is. I have no worries about my faith whatsoever. No outside s will ever threaten my faith.
Open minded? I am yes but not to the point that I allow this kind of garbage to come into it. To me its nothing but garbage.
I completely agree DeeDee and I think there is a difference between being open minded and accepting everything that comes along. When there used to be shame associated with certain actions it kept people from wanting to put themselves in those kinds of positions. I am also getting concerned about how much the government is trying to control in our personal lives. It is definitely getting to be very scarey.
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Yes, Polly & DeeDee, I agree. I do not want the government to have any more control over my private life. They should not be able to tell me, AS AN ADULT, what I can and can not read, watch, say, do, or think in my own home, by myself or with another consenting adult.
Just because I am open minded, do not make the mistake of thinking that I accept every that I hear or read - even (especially) when it comes from the government or another authority.
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ed at the actors who are in this movie. On the radio they said that the author of the books is hoping that after the kids watch this movie they will want their parents to buy them the books for Christmas. Very scarey!
I have not heard of this movie until now but if this is what is all about, I think it should be banned. What is this world coming to anyhow?
s scare you that much???
, debate or anything else with you but do not appreciate being told not to infringe on anyone's rights. I am not doing that, I am simply stating my opinion. 
in with my two cents again. I have not read the books nor do I wish to. Nor will I watch the movie. I have heard many different reports on the news and different religious speakers give their thoughts on the situation (and no they were not always of my religion) and I am very afraid of children seeing the movie (which is said to be harmless) and then wanting to get the books and then learn about atheism. I'm not here to 
but the more accepting we are the more the kids are exposed to and the more confused they become. Christianity teaches love and good moral values. I think everyone has a right to their opinion and a right to protest something they do not believe in. Yes they can run the movie but we as repsonsible parents should protect our children from this kind of hogwash and blasphemy. And now you have my 2 cents worth.
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